Some Anti-Theist Religious Bits & Pieces: Round Ten

Of all of those Big Questions axial to abstract concepts that beleaguer life, the creation and everything, the realms of canon and religions and the attributes of deities abide to fascinate. Opinions breed in books, articles, videos, conversations in bedfast and pubs, and in actuality anywhere and everywhere two or added bodies are in proximity. There’s the pro side; there’s the anti-side. There aren’t too abounding fence-sitters. I’m still in the anti-theist affected as the afterward $.25 and pieces illustrate.

Regarding Religion

*Even if America was founded as a Christian nation – a allegory [#] perpetuated by the acute religious Right, abnormally Right-wing pseudo-‘historian’ David Barton who insists that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were founded on the Bible even admitting neither acknowledgment Christianity, God, Jesus or the Bible – that would still not of call beggarly that Christianity is the be-all-and-end-all of religious truth.

[#] The founding fathers were deists, not theists.

*The bigger blackmail to any adoration is its own doctrine. (via Dark Bulk 2525)

*There are two types of gods, or God. There are the religious gods (or God) which collectively accept numbered in the bags anniversary with their own specific set of traits. Zeus is but one example. Afresh there is the abstract abstraction of a god or God. 1000 apostolic philosophers would arise up with 1000 variations on the affair of what a celestial should be like. No bulk which way you allotment and dice things, you can acquisition a celestial to bout your abstract or apostolic worldview. What we charge is for god, God or the gods to in actuality appearance their abuse faces and achieve these anytime advancing apostolic and abstract issues already and for all.

Of advance maybe there are no gods, god or God.

Then too the gods, god or God would accept been just E.T. Any abundantly avant-garde technology is duplicate from abracadabra if you aren’t in ascendancy of that technology or don’t accept that it even is technology. A flashlight to a animal accepting who lived 50,000 years ago would be something supernatural.

Regarding Adoration vs. Science

*The acceptable affair about science is that it charcoal accurate behindhand of whether or not you accept it.

*Another analogy of the bifold standards that adoration adopts is that if science should abutment their beliefs, afresh it is a thumb’s up and science rules, OK? Of advance if that exact aforementioned science refutes their beliefs, afresh it is an complete thumb’s down. For example, if one finds a section of copse that ability accept some affiliation to Noah’s Ark and carbon dating dates that copse to the time anatomy associated with Noah’s Ark, able-bodied that’s a thumb’s up. Of advance if carbon dating doesn’t abutment a acceptable age for the Shroud of Turin, able-bodied of advance carbon dating is in actuality capricious and lacks believability so it’s a thumb’s down. Sorry Accurate Believers, you can’t accept it both ways.

Regarding Acceptance & Belief

*Say you airing into a bar and acquaint all and assorted loud and bright that you accept in the complete actuality of the following: the Creature from the Black Lagoon; the Cyclops; dragons; the Easter Bunny; fairies at the basal of your garden; human-alien hybrids; an airy abracadabra man in the sky; apparition trains; Santa Claus; ashen hounds; talking snakes; Thor; the Tooth Fairy; unicorns and the walking asleep (zombies). In about all cases, you’d be accustomed rather aberrant looks and abhorred like the affliction as a nut case. I said “nearly” all cases. What’s the barring to the above, the one archetype breadth cipher would anticipate you odd at all? If you answered “an airy abracadabra man in the sky” you’d be correct! [Actually you ability aswell get credibility credibility for dragons, talking snakes, unicorns and zombies aback they are all cited in the Bible.]

*It is abounding easier to be told what to anticipate than to in actuality anticipate for yourself. That’s the accomplished adorableness of religion. (via Dark Bulk 2525)

Regarding Murder

*Why is annihilation wrong? Either annihilation is amiss because it is independently, fundamentally, intrinsically wrong, or abroad is annihilation is amiss just because God says it is wrong. Let’s appraise the closing first.

God Says Annihilation Is Amiss 1: If God says annihilation is wrong, afresh God is a complete actor aback God Himself murders. God’s aesthetics with account to annihilation is do as I say, not as I do. That’s God of the bifold standard. If it’s not annihilation if God does it, afresh isn’t this a case of appropriate pleading? In any event, this apostolic absurdity afresh suggests that if annihilation is amiss just because God says it is wrong, even admitting God murders, afresh all that just agency is that chastity is approximate on the breadth that it is altered acclamation for altered association (and deities).

God Says Annihilation Is Amiss 2: Abounding altercate that if God created you afresh God has the appropriate to uncreate you (i.e. – annihilation you). Of advance God may accept started the animal chase off by creating Adam and Eve, but God didn’t actualize any added animal and in actuality didn’t actualize me and so accordingly has no moral appropriate to annihilate them or me.

God Says Annihilation Is Amiss 3: A lot of theists would say that annihilation is adjoin God’s attributes (in which case these theists haven’t apprehend the Bible), but afresh what gives these theists the ascendancy to adjudge what God’s attributes should be? In any event, if annihilation is adjoin God’s nature, was it God Himself who bent what His attributes would be or was it bent by affairs aloft God’s control?

God Says Annihilation Is Amiss 4: If God murders, afresh that annihilation / those murders are all done according to God’s Master Plan and God’s Master Plan is ultimately good. Of advance theists are just inventing things here, like a Master Plan and added that any Master Plan of God accept to by analogue be good. That argumentation doesn’t follow. Hitler had a Master Plan and attending how that angry out!

Murder Is In actuality Amiss 1: If annihilation is amiss because it’s in actuality wrong, and amiss whether or not God exists or whether in actuality God says annihilation is wrong, afresh chastity doesn’t crave God which would beggarly God isn’t a requisite of or for morality.

Murder Is In actuality Amiss 2: On the added hand, if there in actuality is no God afresh annihilation is bottomless (because there is no God ambience us a bad example) and appropriately awful consequential.

Murder Is In actuality Amiss 3: Able-bodied the non-believer doesn’t accept in an afterlife which agency their accepted activity is all they get. So, a) if they annihilation anyone afresh their alone attempt at activity is bankrupt by spending time in bastille or accepting executed; b) by demography someone’s activity they would accept that they had beneath that person’s activity always – the ultimate violation. Empathy, whether for cocky or for the victim, would accomplish that act of annihilation accordingly a awful bottomless proposition.

Murder Is Accept 1: It is acceptable to annihilation for God is acceptable and God sets us a acceptable archetype by accepting a assassin Himself (and a accumulation assassin at that!). Annihilation cannot be amiss for as continued as God exists. God exists for all eternity, so throughout eternity, annihilation isn’t wrong. So if God exists not alone is annihilation not amiss but it’s in actuality justified! Why?

Murder Is Accept 2: Aback aggregate happens according to God’s Master Plan, a Plan which accept to ultimately be good, if anyone commits a annihilation that annihilation was acutely allotment of God’s Master Plan which is acceptable and accordingly the annihilation was good.

Murder Is Accept 3: It is acceptable to annihilation aback the assassin all needs do is just ask God for absolution and God will so absolve and the assassin will not be punished for the murder.

Murder Is Accept 4: But annihilation just cannot be amiss if the assassin is just sending the victim to an abiding activity with God, and what’s a few years beneath of life, a activity cut short, compared to an aeon in Heaven? By that aforementioned reasoning, what does it bulk if God murders aback the victim allegedly gets to reside on for all eternity?

Murder Is Accept 5: If God says that annihilation is wrong, but atheists say God doesn’t exist, accordingly atheists accept to accept that annihilation ability not be amiss and chastity is just a “it depends” proposition; chastity is appropriately abstract and chastity is appropriately inconsequential.

Murder Is Accept 6: It is acceptable to annihilation if by killing someone, you end up extenuative the lives of 5 others. The needs of the abounding outweigh the needs of the few, or the one (according to Mr. Spock and who can catechism his logic!).

Murder Is Accept 7: It is acceptable to annihilation in adjustment to rid the apple of the unbelievers and the infidels.

Regarding the End Times

*Here’s addition cool End Times item. According to [obviously American] Christian fundamentalists, the ushering in of the End Times is all about what happens in America, either America’s adopted activity (especially in the Near and the Average East), and/or the accompaniment of American society. According to End Times fanatics, complete angry things are accepted in American ability like “happy holidays” and the war on Christmas; abortion; the break of abbey and state; LGBT rights including same-sex marriage; the teaching of evolution; the abatement of God from the Accessible Square; and on it goes. God is not amused and so God will as a complete aftereffect of America giving God the average finger, conductor in the End Times! You may anamnesis Michele Bachmann’s acclaimed announcement that President Obama would all by himself conductor in the End Times (God isn’t a Democrat). Of advance now that Trump has been adopted to the admiral – Trump accepting Bachmann’s affiche boy – Bachmann has been abnormally bashful and has clammed up about the End Times, allegedly because Trump will disengage all of the aloft angry facets in American society.

Regarding Heaven & Hell

*If you can’t be yourself; accurate to yourself in Heaven (i.e. – sinful), afresh your alone accurate to yourself afterlife accept to be in Hell.

Regarding the Bible

*True Christian Believers will acquaint you all about the multi-dozens of flood tales from about the apple which just goes to prove the Biblical chance of Noah and the Ark. God’s all-around flood was an in actuality accurate event. Of advance what those aforementioned Accurate Christian Believers leave out; they will not acquaint you, are all of the complete cogent differences in all of those added stories! Further, there are abounding societies in locations that never anytime even accomplished a flood of any affectionate during the time the declared Biblical Flood allegedly happened. In any event, there’s a in fact banal and analytic account for these multi-dozens of flood tales. Civilisations, nations, cities, etc. way aback afresh all tended to authorize themselves complete abutting to a aloft baptize accumulation – usually a river – for drinking, washing, agronomics and of advance for decay auctioning purposes. Aloft baptize sources, like rivers, are decumbent to flood eventually or later. Even today there’s not a year that goes by afterwards abounding aloft flood contest happening. End of mystery.

*Are we actively accepted to accept that the Israelite ‘slaves’ who were led out of Egypt by Moses and Aaron numbered [actually hardly over] 600,000 men? That’s 600,000 angry fit males able to go to war already they accomplished the Promised Land. That’s NOT including their families – the women and children. Consult Exodus 12: 37 (and aswell Numbers 1: 45-46). Such a bulk is aboveboard antic if you in actuality stop and analyse it. Even the complete ten-year Trojan War – acknowledgment to Helen, whose face launched (over) 1000 ships abounding with Greeks in defence of her honour – never circuitous even abutting to that bulk of combatants (plus families). Further, 600,000 was way added manpower than it took to assemble the pyramids (or any added of the seven wonders of the age-old world). A city-limits of over 600,000 is even today advised to be a aloft and able-bodied accustomed ample burghal breadth acute a aloft basement to maintain, sustain, abutment and breeding it. Finally, if you in actuality had over 600,000 men, women and brats abnormality about in a almost bedfast bounded breadth for 40 years (itself an in actuality antic concept) there would accept to be archaeological affirmation for that and there is in actuality none. To top it all off however, there’s no affidavit in the account and annal of age-old Egypt that gives even the far-off authority to this (tall) tale.

*So if the Bible is complete affidavit that God exists, afresh by the aforementioned token; by the aforementioned logic, “The Hound of the Baskervilles” proves Sherlock Holmes exists!

Regarding God

*Knowledge and the advance of ability about life, the Creation and (nearly) aggregate has avant-garde decidedly over the accomplished 3000 years. Ability about God hasn’t avant-garde one individual jot over that aforementioned period. What does that say about the absoluteness of God then?

*If one in actuality wants to prove the complete actuality of (the Christian) God, afresh one has got to point out at atomic one array of ascertainment that anybody abroad can agenda and log as well, an ascertainment of something that ONLY the Christian God could be captivated answerable for. No added god / gods or celestial / deities could be captivated amenable – not Allah, not Brahma, not Quetzalcoatl, not Athena, not Gaia, not Apollo, not Thor or for that bulk not even bewitched pixies. No added article except the Christian God could be answerable for this accepted observation. Of advance there is no such observation, nor is there anytime acceptable to be. So therefore, if you anytime apprehend anyone say that they accept complete affidavit of (the Christian) God’s existence, you apperceive it’s authentic bovine fertiliser.

*If God is the blah mover, the uncaused causer, the Aboriginal Could cause of life, the Creation and everything, afresh aggregate that trickles down from that Aboriginal Could cause (i.e. – all consecutive causality) is anon attributable to God. So, if my car break down – and acutely that had a could cause – God is ultimately responsible!

*When God said “let there be light”, what accent was He speaking in? I beggarly there were no bodies yet about and appropriately no announced languages were yet in vogue. For that matter, what accent did Adam and Eve and that talking snake use? God accept to accept accomplished them His accent (whatever that was) or infused, imprinted or programmed it innately into their accouterments (i.e. – their brains).

*The Titanic sank and over 700 souls were saved. Isn’t God wonderful! Praise God! Alas, over 1400 added souls were lost, so of advance it was just their time to angrily go and to be with their Maker. Isn’t God wonderful! Praise God! Of advance all of these souls absent and adored had in actuality annihilation to do with the bare bulk of lifeboats on lath and no accord to the abstraction that women and accouchement accepting aboriginal able at accepting adored if in peril at sea. You see you can’t win if it comes to God’s activity in the eyes of the Accurate Believers aback God can do no wrong.

*Then we accept the chance (fable?) of the architecture of the Tower of Babel to which God was not amused. (Genesis, Chapter 11) Why? Able-bodied allegedly the abounding army were architecture a array of stairway to heaven, which God allegedly anticipation of as a anatomy of cheating on your final exam. Anyway, to nip this little chance in the bud, God created a assortment of languages a allotment of the people, appropriately adverse communication, as able-bodied as drop them to the four corners of the globe, appropriately added adverse communication. Advice is capital in the acknowledged designing, and in amalgam projects of this nature. Alas for God, this didn’t ultimately plan out so well. Fast advanced a few thousand years and bodies accept out-towered the Tower. We’ve congenital skyscrapers that arise way aloft annihilation the ancients approved to build, skyscrapers present and accounted for and accustomed in every aloft city-limits in the world. So what’s The Almighty traveling to do about this little fly in His ointment? What’s God traveling to do for an acclamation aback He’s acclimated up accent and bounded about-face in His little bag of miracles?

*If you allocution to yourself, able-bodied okay, sometimes that is the alone way to accept an able conversation. If you allocution to your plants, able-bodied best not acquaint anyone. But if you allocution to azoic stuff, able-bodied that’s just apparent weird. But, we accept this abracadabra celestial (i.e. – God), who lives in the sky, who chooses to allocution to the snow, and of advance the snow hears and obeys. I kid you not. Check it out at Job 37: 6.

*I’ve acclaimed afore how God loves His burnt offerings; offerings unto Him. Sometimes things get in actuality aloft the pale. In 1 Kings 3: 4, Solomon gives God 1000 burnt offerings. But that’s annihilation compared to 1 Kings 8: 63 if Solomon ups the ante to 22,000 oxen and 120,000 sheep all traveling up in bonfire as a burnt alms to the Lord! This in actuality defies belief!

*God supports and rewards your acceptance over your deeds. Your accomplishments can be forgiven – if you accept in Him – but a abridgement of acceptance or acceptance can’t be forgiven. To God, acceptance and acceptance in Him is the a lot of angelic of hollies / the a lot of axiological of the fundamentals. Personally, I acquisition that absurd.

*God can’t be all-just and all-merciful. All-just is you get what you deserve, no added and no less. All-merciful agency you get beneath than your just desserts.

*If God exists alfresco of space, afresh God is dimensionless (which is an complete accompaniment of nothing) which is absurd. If God exists alfresco of time afresh God accept to be apoplectic which is aswell absurd. Accordingly the accomplished abstraction of accepting alfresco of amplitude and time is cool and meaningless

Regarding God’s Able Design

*If God in actuality had intelligently advised the laws, attempt and relationships of the concrete sciences, the God should accept fabricated Pi a rational number; God should of fabricated the acceleration of ablaze absolutely 300,000 km/sec (an all-knowing God would accept had the anticipation to apperceive the metric arrangement was coming); God should accept fabricated the bulk of 24 hour canicule an absolutely divisible bulk of the Earth’s annual alternate aeon (i.e. – no bound years and added adjustments). And I’m abiding engineers, scientists and even abounding associates of the accepted accessible could arise up with dozens of added agnate examples breadth God could accept done a bigger job instead of banishment the abounding army to consistently fit not in fact so annular pegs into annular holes.

Regarding God’s Omnipotence

*Apparently over 160 worshippers were dead if the Reigners Bible Abbey International burst in southern Nigeria on Saturday, 10 December 2016. What does that say about God’s morality? What does that say about God’s omniscience and omnipotence? What does that say about God’s complete reality?

Regarding the God of the Gaps

*Science can’t explain and scientists can’t actualize activity from non-life, accordingly God did it!

As to the agent of life, that’s a alteration – activity from non-life – that is still unexplained. But something currently alien doesn’t of call construe into always and anytime unexplained. The history of science is abounding of multi-thousands of contest already alien that are now accomplished as absolutely explained to even elementary children.

Once aloft a time it was accustomed ‘fact’ that you couldn’t accomplish amoebic compounds from asleep compounds. Afresh urea was synthesised. Awful circuitous amoebic chemistry, allure allotment and bindle of the activity processes, has now been commonly synthesised beneath what we accept were accustomed conditions. Adjoin all expectations, awful circuitous amoebic molecules accept been apparent in interstellar space.

If you yield the all-inclusive bulk of absolute acreage that the creation presents itself has having, accompanying with those a lot of abounding of elements in the cosmos, elements that just arise to anatomy the courage of activity (hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, nitrogen), accompanying with billions aloft billions of years for reactions to arise in, accompanying with the abstraction of panspermia, able-bodied I accept a accustomed account for the agent of activity is way added a astute account than a apostolic one. Just adage “God did it” is just too simple an answer, and an acknowledgment that in and of itself hasn’t been approved as accustomed fact.

We may not accept THE acknowledgment to the agent of activity in our lifetime, but conceivably in a 100 years, 1000 years, any academy kid ability be able to actualize activity in a test-tube as allotment of their analysis class. Already the acknowledgment is in actuality known, it will allegedly assume obvious.

Regarding God’s ‘Morality’

*Many Accurate Believers don’t anticipate through the implications of their acceptance system. Accurate Christian Believers accept their God will forward non-believers to abiding affliction in Hell (which of advance God Himself created). So conceivably it is not hasty that non-believers are added than hardly agitated with what Accurate Believers believe. Wouldn’t you be agitated if anyone who wouldn’t apperceive you from a bar of soap thinks you should – just and alone just because you are a non-believer in their adoration and in their God – go to Hell and be punished for all eternity. So allegedly Accurate Believers accept to accept in God’s ‘morality’, that bound ‘crimes’ deserve absolute punishments (i.e. – Hell). If you do not accede with God’s ‘morality’ as declared in your angelic text(s); if God’s ‘morality’ offends you, afresh in adjustment to abstain accepting a hypocrite, you should boutique about a acquisition a added acceptable adoration or just accord up adoration entirely. It’s not as if there aren’t alternatives.

*I’m a bit abashed here. In the Book of Exodus, God wants the Egyptian Pharaoh to let his bodies go and sends Moses and Aaron forth with a agglomeration of abracadabra tricks to ‘diplomatically’ align for this to happen. However, God aswell hardens Pharaoh’s affection in adjustment to anticipate the complete affair that God wants from happening. Why? The alone acumen that makes faculty is that this gives God an alibi to accumulate His signs and wonders unto the Egyptian nation and appropriately aswell accord acumen for Him to allowance atrocities aloft Pharaoh and the Egyptian people. It’s all just for the account of patting His almighty cocky on the back, accepting some of that abhorrence of God PR (no publicity is bad publicity) into the abounding unwashed, all while waging atrocities just for the account of waging atrocities and for no added reason. It just gives God an adulterine alibi to strut His stuff. Allegedly the endure affair God in actuality capital was for Pharaoh to let his bodies go – even afterwards Pharaoh let His bodies go.

Regarding the Absolute Ten Commandments

I bet you anticipate you apperceive what the Ten Commandments are abnormally aback they are accustomed twice, aboriginal in Exodus, Chapter 20; afresh afresh in Deuteronomy, Chapter 5. But of advance Moses bankrupt the tablets aloft which those aboriginal Ten Commandments were written, so it was aback to Square One and let’s do it all over again. However, the additional set of Ten Commandments, the ones that in actuality begin their way into the Ark of the Covenant, buck little appliance to those aboriginal set of inscribed tablets. Somewhere forth the line, God afflicted His mind. So here’s the accordant locations of Exodus, Chapter 34 – King James Version (KJV) – which accord you the absolute additional and final set of God’s Ten Commandments.

Exodus 34: 1 And the Lord said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of rock like unto the first: and I will address aloft these tables the words that were in the aboriginal tables, which thou brakest.

34: 4 And he hewed two tables of rock like unto the first; and Moses rose up aboriginal in the morning, and went up unto arise Sinai, as the Lord had allowable him, and took in his duke the two tables of stone.

34: 5 And the Lord descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the Lord.

34: 14 For thou shalt adoration no added god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a anxious God: [Commandment One]

34: 17 Thou shalt accomplish thee no aqueous gods. [Commandment Two]

34: 18 The barbecue of unleavened aliment shalt thou keep. Seven canicule thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I allowable thee, in the time of the ages Abib: for in the ages Abib thou camest out from Egypt. [Commandment Three]

34: 19 All that openeth the cast is mine; and every firstling a allotment of thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male. [Commandment Four]

34: 21 Six canicule thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in autumn thou shalt rest. [Commandment Five]

34: 22 And thou shalt beam the barbecue of weeks, of the firstfruits of aureate harvest, and the barbecue of autumn at the year’s end. [Commandment Six]

34: 23 Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren arise afore the Lord God, the God of Israel. [Commandment Seven]

34: 25 Thou shalt not action the claret of my cede with leaven; neither shall the cede of the barbecue of the passover be larboard unto the morning. [Commandment Eight]

34: 26 The aboriginal of the firstfruits of thy acreage thou shalt accompany unto the abode of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother’s milk. [Commandments Nine and Ten]

34: 27 And the Lord said unto Moses, Address thou these words: for afterwards the tenor of these words I accept fabricated a agreement with thee and with Israel.

34: 28 And he was there with the Lord forty canicule and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor alcohol water. And he wrote aloft the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

By the way, the actual aloft (Exodus 34: 28) is the complete aboriginal time the byword “ten commandments” is acclimated in the Bible.

Comments: It’s absorbing that in both sets of Ten Commandments, the Aboriginal Commandment, God puts Himself aboriginal and foremost. As I’ve said endless bulk of times, God’s an egomaniac to end all egomaniacs.

Of the admirable complete of 19 Commandments – both sets – alone three are in actuality adopted as animal law in about all societies, and those are alone from the aboriginal set of tablets – the set that Moses broke.

Regarding Jesus

*The Christmas chance of the three astute men address ability for little babyish Jesus is alone told in Matthew, Chapter 2. That itself is abnormal – why no acknowledgment of this accident in Mark, Luke or John? However, the in actuality camp affair is that they brought ability for him, acceptation babyish Jesus, ability of gold, aroma and myrrh. Now I candidly accept to ask you, what the hell does a bairn babyish charge or do with gold, aroma and myrrh? It’s complete nonsense. Methinks the ‘wise’ men weren’t in actuality complete astute at all.

Regarding Atheists & Atheism

*Atheists ability be happier to co-exist with religious bodies of acceptance if religious bodies of acceptance were blessed to co-exist with atheists. But abounding (not all) religious bodies of acceptance (True Believers) debris to co-exist with atheists.